Goku and Duplicate Vegeta wonder who's side Vegeta is on. Let's see, Dialga's very heartbeat keeps time going onwards. Trunks remembers that the main body was Duplicate Gryll, whom Duplicate Vegeta defeated earlier. Vegeta gets up, completely tattered and torn, and says he’ll use the last of his power to kill every one of them before heading back to Freeza’s ship to recover. Any argument saying otherwise is arguing Akira Toriyama’s words, which as we all know, is word of God. Fat Boo with minimal power managed to blast SSJ2 Gohan into an inch of his life. When Goku arrives back on Earth to face Vegeta and Nappa, Vegeta states that Gokuâs combat level is 8,000 (Yes, 8000, not 9000 like that one bad dub said). Goku has been training to fight since he was a child, and his skill as a fighter have come on a lot of intense training. Gohan strikes it back when Vegeta dodges it and Vegeta takes the full force brunt of the Spirit Bomb. Really think about that. Kid Boo had no one aiding him anymore. He is claiming Kid Boo is stronger than Super Boo. 0. No spirit fusion. (æ空VSè¤è£½ãã¸ã¼ã¿! Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! Which One Is Going to Win?!" First, we are never given a true example of how powerful Fat Boo is. January 13, 2018 As the manga shows, Super Boo in any form was stronger than SSJ3 Goku but Kid Boo was weaker. Goku uses Instant Transmission to constantly teleport around Duplicate Vegeta and lands an attack on him, and starts turning the battle in his favor. He states Vegeta is far from finished and Yajirobe should run before he returns, which he does. Vegeta decisively wins. The problem is that Goku wasn’t really trying in the first fight with Buu because they wanted Gotenks to do it, and then when they had to be the one to do it(with Vegeta), they were brought back to life. Menace of the Duplicate Vegeta! If you need the short but sweet version: Vegeta won. Who's Gonna Win? As I’ve explained to others, having no access to your power is not the same as not having the power. Much to everyone's surprise, Duplicate Vegeta also transforms. No Z warrior was ever shown damaging Fat Boo. It comes to two possible reasons: I don’t believe Toriyama wrote the battle between them to have Goku win, because he obviously couldn’t. Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. SSJ2 Kid Gohan vs. SSJ2 Post-Majin Vegeta? Hell, we could take both characters at the very end of their respective timelines. After Yajirobe removes Vegeta’s tail, he states he STILL has enough power to kill every last one of them, demonstrating it by knocking out Yajirobe and Krillin and then going after Gohan. Maybe being in the Z universe would give Supes more power. So, in that instance, Goku would demolish Superman in just about any stage of his life. Vegeta 8/10. Jaco is frustrated of the idea of it not being interested in Jaco's power. No other character is DBZ is ever said to be able to beat Freeza in one punch, and it’s worth noting that Supreme Kai only stated this AFTER Vegeta pointed out a Saiyan could do the same amount of damage as Kid Boo could back in those days. I see a lot of arguments on who actually won the initial fight between Goku and Vegeta during the Saiyan saga. While they are running from Commeson, Jaco is panicking that he will become a victim and a copy of him is made, but Trunks reassures him that he would quickly defeat his clone. The entire events of this episode were exclusive to the anime. SOS from the Future: A Dark New Enemy Appears! The other sayains do the same to gohan. Goku begins his battle to the death with Duplicate Vegeta, and they turn out to be evenly matched. When the final villain blows up Earth five seconds into forming, fans are going to form the impression he’s the strongest one. This already puts Vegeta at a higher power level, demonstrated when he makes a plaything out of Goku in the first phase of their battle. It’d be like asking who would win in a fight between Charlie Sheen and some other being in some other dimension. Goku has a very established end of his timeline, whether it be when he leaves with Oob in the final chapter of Z or you’re one of those people who prefers the ending to GT and he flies off with Shenlong. Do you think Goku knew from the start he was going to lose and chose to fight anyways to protect Earth? Excluding Goku/Vegeta, could the z fighters have won vs nappa in sayian saga? Vegeta tells Duplicate Vegeta to win as fast as possible, then tells Goku not to hold back, then flies back to the ground. This literally states Kid Boo was weaker than SSJ3 Goku if he could have killed Kid Boo at full power. Superhero fans who loved reading about OP characters need to look no farther than the wildly popular Dragon Ball manga series. Vegeta "defeated" Goku AFTER the battle so it doesn't count, and even though we all know SSJ3 Goku would've wiped the floor with Vegeta this never happened so we can't call Goku ⦠Kid Boo wanted to murder everything, so it’s no surprise people tend to think of Kid Boo as the stronger/strongest one, seeing as he was the only one to actively hunt down and kill others. Trunks, Goten, Potage and Jaco fly to where Duplicate Gryll was knocked to, but see that he is gone, and so is Commeson's core. You can’t take a movie character who lost to a powered up SSJ1 and say he could destroy a villain who could beat a max power SSJ3 Goku. 0. Superman vs. Goku: Why It’s A Pointless Debate. On top of that, Thanos' skin is built like a rock ⦠Close. It's a part of his power set, like a transformation into ⦠Goku uses Instant Transmission to constantly teleport around Duplicate Vegeta and lands an attack on him, and starts turning the battle in his favor. Goku has repeatedly entered battles he knew he couldn’t win, simply aiming for the challenge and to see how he stacked up. Vegeta starts getting frustrated that Duplicate Veget⦠I don't post very often and mostly only do when I need a point raised to share with someone. Goku (Base/Super Saiyan Blue) vs. This saga is TV Original and not based on the manga. "Goku vs. the Duplicate Vegeta! There is no way to have Goku and Superman fight as equals. So, why still fight knowing he couldn’t win? If you’re including non-canon stuff anyway, Broly get’s further levels of Super Saiyan, including 3 and 4 in Heroes. It isn’t until Gohan goes Oozaru by pure accident that Vegeta is finally beaten and left helpless and has to retaliate to fight another day. Katsu no wa dotchida!? Japanese Every form of Boo was able to beat SSJ3 Goku in some way (I’ve explained this in a previous post with scans provided). Series SSJ1 Gohan and SSJ1 Goten together managed to beat Broly, so that ends it right there. He’s the hero who tries no matter how bad the outcome looks. They’re two different fighters, in different universes, obeying a different set of space/time laws, using different power scalings, and different attacks. In a fight, Goku would utilize ki based attacks while also relying on his martial art skills. 0. Buu’s main strong point is their instant regeneration that comes from being a blob monster in humanoid form. Compared to Goku, Vegeta's relationship with Sonic was that of co-workers who got along well enough, but didn't really interact with each other all that much. Vegeta beat Goku without any cheating at all. Durability. We don’t know how either fighter would be in the others universe or what powers they would or wouldn’t have. Naruto enacts his Sage Mode and sends various shadow clones running at Goku with each clone holding a Rasengan. This means Kid Boo is, by canon, immensely weaker than Fat Boo, and weaker than Super Boo since Super Boo had Gohan/Gotenks/Piccolo adding to his power. Meanwhile, in the annihilated Alternate Timeline, Future Trunks is exhausted from running, until a blast of light surprises him. Then Gohan and Krillin arrive. They then pronounce to each other that they will not lose. Super Saiyan 3>Buu, in terms of pure power. Watch Dragon Ball Super Episode 46, Goku vs. Duplicated Vegeta! Letâs say vegeta goes ssbe and gives every bit of power he has to mui goku then dies. Saga Again to prove the point, SSJ2 Vegeta at full power (even detonating his own body) didn’t even phase Fat Boo. Chi-Chi is relieved to see Goten is safe, and Bulma tells Trunks not to sneak on a spacecraft again. Trunks reminds him that if the clone is not beaten, then he dies. Potage re-seals Commeson, and thanks everyone for their efforts. åã¤ã®ã¯ã©ã£ã¡ã ! Vegeta tells Goku that he cannot beat him with attacks like that, as Duplicate Vegeta aggressively pushes Goku back. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Monaka, who is "waking up", nonchalantly steps on Commeson's core behind him, which damages it along with Duplicate Vegeta. Monaka accidentally destroys the Commensons Core allowing Goku the chance to destroy the Duplicate Vegeta. SSJ1 Goku even with said power-up was not on SSJ2 power level standings, much less SSJ3. Vegeta steps in-between Trunks and Commeson, as Trunks screams out for his father. After turning into Kid Boo, Goku and Vegeta laugh and poke fun at Kid Boo’s demeanor and chi, as he has become significantly weaker, knowing that they could kill this Boo. We later learn during the events on Namek from Dodoria that before going to Earth, Vegeta’s combat level was 18,000. Do you honestly believe Super Boo (even with Gohan absorbed) had more power than Kid Boo’s power level + 4x Freeza one shotting power? Speed. Only in the Pokémon universe. That Kai’s goodness combined with Fat Boo losing the ability to summon all of his power due to de-evolution inside the cocoon for so long led Fat Boo to not being able to draw upon all of his power. We later learn during the events on Namek from Dodoria that before going to Earth, Vegetaâs combat level was 18,000. Trunks asks if there is another way to save Vegeta, as the fight could get very violent, and Potage suggests that the core of Commeson should be crushed, so its copies can become weaker. That should mean that in Trunks' time line there must have been another Trunks coming from his future to tell about Goku black but that can't be since 1. : then trunks would have already known about Goku black in his future time line since the future future trunks appeared already (l and 2. : that would also end in an endless ⦠Goku: Solar Flare! Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. It’s his DNA. So, how old is Cell Games saga Gohan? who would win between MUI goku and super saiyan blue evolution vegeta vs full power naruto and sasuke ( sorry but idk what their full power is) Press J to jump to the feed. 46 What do you think? So, here we go: It’s common knowledge both SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta could NOT beat Gohan absorbed Boo (also known as Boohan) without fusing together into Vegerot, so we can safely say Boohan is stronger than both Goku and Vegeta alone. After freeing Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo, Goku states Super Boo (in his original form he fought Gotenks in) is still too powerful for either SSJ3 Goku or SSJ2 Vegeta, so that proves Super Boo even without any absorbed fighters is stronger than either of them. Now stop spreading the whole “Broly is strongest character” thing. Posted by 3 hours ago. Supreme Kai states his power was locked away due to the gentleness of the last Kai he absorbed and he is never shown fighting at full power because of that drawback. Contrary to popular belief, Goku did not fight Kid Boo as SSJ2, instead opting to immediately go SSJ3. Vegeta Disappears?! Goku asks Vegeta if he was chewing on a pacifier, to which Vegeta is confused. That right there concluded Goku vs Vegeta with Vegeta as the very established winner. The number of times Vegeta, Gohan, and Goku have stepped up in dire situations and found a completely new transformation to outfox the enemy is hilarious. Do you think he simply fought for the challenge? The most modern version of the characters apply. Broly was born on Planet Vegeta around the same time as Prince Vegeta and Goku, but even as a baby, Brolyâs power level was abnormally high - so high that King Vegeta exiled ⦠Kaio-Ken would double Goku to a combat level of 16,000, still less than Vegeta’s, so Kaio-Ken x 3 would triple it to make it 24,000, significantly higher than Vegeta’s, demonstrated when he beat the shit out of Vegeta. So even if Superman is on top of the fight, he would be wise to end it quickly because if Vegeta is given enough time, he will definitely ⦠Supreme Kai points out why Kid Boo is so much weaker but still putting up such a fight: Kid Boo LOST the souls of the Kai’s he absorbed, meaning he lost all the power of four characters who could one shot Freeza. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Its original American airdate was January 13, 2018. Most of your debate right here has been disproven previously on my blog. And as I said before, they live in alternate universes that cannot be compared. Inability to access isn’t the same as not having altogether. Toriyama wrote that fight to show even when he couldn’t win, Goku still gave his all. All their power derives from chi. Once Goku was beat then the earthling and Gohan beat Vegeta. That is irrelevant to DB characters. While most Dragon Ball fans believe that Super Saiyan 4 Goku wouldnât stand a chance against Super Saiyan Blue Goku, the truth is that itâs very hard to guess which one is the strongest. I don’t feel the need to post a manga scan for this because it’s a pretty obvious thing to deduce even without it. The opposite might be true for Superman. Jaco pulls out his camera, realizing he would not see another scene like this, but much to his dismay, his camera's battery had run out. Or do you believe something else entirely? 1 Winner: Thanos Thanos is superior to the Saiyan Prince in the most important aspects of the fight, which is strength, regeneration skills, intelligence, and weapons. Vegeta: Agh! Well, I’m here to explain two things that a lot of people aren’t going to be happy about. 1. Goku telepathically communicates with Krillin when he awakens and begins the Spirit Bomb plan as Gohan faces Vegeta. Jaco points out that Vegeta is even more transparent than before. Trunks notices that Vegeta's ki is disappearing, and quickly flies to him, and Goten follows. 0. Babidi decided to have the Z fighters tackle a collection of his monsters in order to gather energy to awaken Buu, but Goku and Vegeta really didn't give them very much time. Sure, Charlie Sheen would probably win just because he’s Charlie Sheen, but there’s no way for us to say who would win since we have no idea what that other dimension is like or what the other being could do in this one. SSJ1 Goku with a power-up from Piccolo, Trunks, Gohan, and Vegeta made Goku powerful enough to beat Broly in a single punch. Kid Goku vs Vegeta. One Supes may end a timeline being just a pretty strong guy who can beat up criminals with ease but would be made into a pile of goo by Raditz while another Supes may end a timeline as an omnipotent God who can mold reality into what he wants and be too high of a transcendent being to even be touched. 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